Monday, November 16, 2009

Bush can seize American citizens as enemy combatants?

Yes - Bush can now seize American citizens as enemy combatants. Anyone can be declared an enemy combatant by Bush, even a citizen of the US, and Bush doesn't have to explain or justify it to anyone. Hello secret prison, hello torture, bye phone call, bye right to an attorney, bye trial by a jury of your peers, bye to even knowing what you are charged with. This is outrageous! The conservatives have trampled the constitution and turned it into toilet paper! And it all happened during the Foley scandal!





http://www.newsday.com/news/opinion/ny-o...


http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journalgaze...


http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c1...

Bush can seize American citizens as enemy combatants?
I am certainly not a Democrat and definitely not a Liberal (at least not the tax and spend kind)





But notme is right, this is a serious danger. This means anyone can be picked up off the streets for any reason, and shipped to a secret prison. And don't think the Supreme Court will be able to save you. In the worse case scenario, a given person could just be picked up off the street and since there would only be a missing person report on file with the local police. The Supreme Court would never even get a chance to hear the case. Meanwhile, the Federal government has imprisoned this person in a remote detention center. Sound familiar, that is exact what Stalin did.





How can a conservative follow the policies of extreme left wing psychopaths?





And remember any power you give a Republican President will eventually be wielded by a Democratic one.





I certainly would not want Hilary Clinton or her ilk to have such power.
Reply:The constitution trumps a law. I expect the Supreme Court to fix this problem. However someone may rot in a secret jail for a while first.
Reply:They had a problem finding anyone evil enough to figure out how to torture Jose Padia. They want to torture him but he is a citizen





That combined with expostfacto. They want to torture the people that are currently detained. Normally a new law does not cover incidents that occurred before the law.





Go big Red Go
Reply:Well don't go about trying to blow us up and you want have to worry about it.
Reply:Yes we allowed our semi-elected officials to pass this bill and before bush signed the law he was having internet sex with a Congressional page boy!
Reply:I do hope FastFred is right.
Reply:Nice.Toilet paper.Its always good to have toilet paper.Messy things happen when you run out.
Reply:Resident Aliens can be arrested and forced to a military tribunal; however, citizen can be declared enemy combatants, but they get the rights of an American Citizen including habeus corpus and a regular criminal court.





The bill itself only talks about Aliens. I think it's an error that it doesn't specifically exclude citizens and instead fails to mention them. It does specifically say that Citizens cannot be tried by a military tribunal. Therefore, they must get regular court rights.





It's badly written I'll say that for it.
Reply:I agree, completely outrageous. There are people that have been held for years already without being charged. Many times their families do not even know what happens to them and reports them missing to the authorities only to find out they have been arrested. This administration rules by fear. I guess Bush really meant it when he said " You are either with us or against us". You must agree and comply with all the BS they dish out or risk losing your freedom. So much for the land of the free. The brave are imprisoned for disagreeing.
Reply:Yawnnnnn. Will your questions be getting smarter anytime soon?

Hair

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