Friday, November 18, 2011

Who still thinks Bush said that the constitution is "just a GD piece of paper"?

Can anyone produce a credible source? I'm sure if he had really said that it would have been all over CNN and MSNBC.

Who still thinks Bush said that the constitution is "just a GD piece of paper"?
The truthout article does not dispute the validity of the "constitution story". However, you are correct, if this story were true, legitimate news agencies would have run with it. If you do a search, the story is only in the blogosphere.





The tragedy is that everyone who hears this story believes it without thinking twice. If such a quote had been attributed to any other president (with perhaps the exception of Nixon) it would be dismissed out of hand by most people. The fact that everyone believes the story tells us a lot about what people think of George Bush.





I also never heard any denials from the White House, and this White House is usually pretty quick to get out its own side of the story, whether true or false.
Reply:Here's what I found:





Last month, Republican Congressional leaders filed into the Oval Office to meet with President George W. Bush and talk about renewing the controversial USA Patriot Act.





Several provisions of the act, passed in the shell shocked period immediately following the 9/11 terrorist attacks, caused enough anger that liberal groups like the American Civil Liberties Union had joined forces with prominent conservatives like Phyllis Schlafly and Bob Barr to oppose renewal.





GOP leaders told Bush that his hardcore push to renew the more onerous provisions of the act could further alienate conservatives still mad at the President from his botched attempt to nominate White House Counsel Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court.





"I don't give a goddamn," Bush retorted. "I'm the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way."





"Mr. President," one aide in the meeting said. "There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution."





"Stop throwing the Constitution in my face," Bush screamed back. "It's just a goddamned piece of paper!"





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How about asking "Who still thinks Iraq had ANYTHING to do with 9/11?"
Reply:Actually, whether Bush said it or not, his statement that "I'm the decider" proves that he thinks the Constitution is just another piece of paper. Also, if you will listen to his state of the Union address, he actually said "I decided" so many times that I lost count. Also, he stated that those who disagree with him "had better". Actions always speak louder than words.





He's a traitor in my book.
Reply:There does not appear to be any named person who is willing to go on the record to corroborate it.





I therefore don't put any credence in it as having been proven.
Reply:I've never heard that Bush *said* that - I just look at his actions to know he *believes* that! Illegal wiretaps, suspension of habeus corpus, denial of justice and speedy trials to prisoners, expansion of executive powers far beyond any predecessor... whether he said it or not is irrelevant - it's exactly how he's acting.
Reply:I haven't heard that Bush said that.





Maybe the quote was a confused reference to Alberto Gonzales quote referring to the Geneva Convention as "quaint".





Do you think so?
Reply:He said that?!! Bush has got some nerve!
Reply:Hmmm - I never said that, but it doesn't change the fact he violated his oath of office by signing an order shortly after 9/11 allowing the NSA to eavesdrop on american citizens without a warrant.
Reply:I don't know or care if he said it. He acts like the constitution doesn't exist. That's what counts.


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